Dear Veterans,
Regards.Find below two posts regarding degradation of officers
posted on Major Navdeep's Blog and opinion asked by me about
a particular case of degradation of status of a highly qualified
Sgt by Diector General of Resttlement (DGR).There have been
about twenty comments in the case of officers but none about
the caseof Senior Non-Commissioned officer. Single comment
moderated by blog master has brought out the real story behind
this game. Please post your valued comments about this.
Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
President,
Indian Ex-Services League,Punjab & Chandigarh.
Mob.098554-09128,Tele-Fax.0175-5000896
Monday, November 30, 2009
Two employment advertisements : One sad commentary
Look inwards.It is sometimes appalling to hear the oft repeated
fury towards the so called ‘netas and babus’ by the military
community. It is no more than a delusion of persecution on our
part. It seems that we have been brainwashed to believe that those
in the government have nothing better to do than to cut the
military to size. True, there has been a degradation of military
sheen in the society in general for which successive governments
have to take responsibility, but to totally put it upon ‘netas and
babus’ and to act as holy cows in the bargain would not be fair at
all. First of all, our own people are unable to get their acts together –
and the constant e-mail wars, litigation and lack of common ground
between various veteran organisations bear testimony to the fact.
Secondly, we have started behaving as if the world at large owes us
something, we want to be treated as so far special and removed from
the general society that we need a wake up call, something to the
effect of an alarm bell screaming – “Welcome to the real world !!!.
” Most of the problems are self-created since we do not believe in
thinking logically, democratically and within the four corners of
what is acceptable and rational. Which brings me back to the
subject at hand. There are two advertisements for deputation and
re-employment of released military officers doing the rounds, one
issued by the Ministry of Home Affairs and the other issued by the
Directorate General of EME. Have a dekko:Ministry of Home Affairs :
Requirement of Officers to be appointed as PROs in BSF Scale of Pay :
Pay Band-3 / GP 6600 (Formerly 10000-15200)Rank of officers
sought on re-employment / deputation terms : Captains Army's
Directorate General of EME : Requirement of Officers to be
appointed as Executive EngineersScale of Pay : Pay Band-3 /
GP 6600 (Formerly 10000-15200)Rank of officers sought on
re-employment / deputation terms : Full Colonels / Lt Colonels
So there you have it. Charity begins at home. While the MHA
seeks officers of the rank of Capt for a particular post, the
Directorate General of EME seeks Cols and Lt Cols for a post of
the same level with the same pay. And to add to it, it mentions
in the advertisement that in actual terms the appointment of
EEs is tenable by Majors. Some may jump in to say that Cols and
Lt Cols are being re-employed as Capts and Majs even within the
Army. But that my dear Sirs and Ma’ams is different. Within the
Army you have the benefit of your uniform where you wear your
actual ranks badges and enjoy the same entitlements coupled
with the awareness of the position from where you retired which
your colleagues recognise. Getting re-employed as a civilian is
a different ball game altogether. We are unable to foresee what
damage such actions would cause some years into the future.
There would be no dearth of supply of Short Service Capts and
Majors from the technical Arms who would love to join as EEs,
why not give them this opportunity ? But what we are in short
supply of is something else. It is application of mind and depth
in work. Period.
Posted by Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singh at 5:02 AM 23 comments
Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal said...
Dear Veterans on this blog,My warm Regards to all of you.After
going through the post mailed by my younger brother, Navdeep
and all the comments given by dear blogger veterans, I am
compelled to ask your valued opinion about the following incidence.
A Sgt.(Equivalent to Hav.and Petty officer in other two forces) who
at the time of retirement holding two Post Graduation Degrees,got
registered with the Director General of Resettlement(DGR) for
employment in Civil after retirement, got two interview calls from
Respected DGR, in the first year of retirement, out of which first
was for the Employment as Telephone Attendant and the other
was for Peon-cum- Chowkidar(both class iv appointments).
What is your opinion about this. Please enlighten
.Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
December 5, 2009 10:27 PM
Anonymous said...
sir my comments have not been posted though I feel strongly
for the issue. however its your prerogative to find what can
make it further better.
December 6, 2009 1:13 AM
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Dear Sir,
ReplyDeletewe need not expect anything from them. It is Quiet obvious. Their assumption is that with some 8th standard qualification some body is employed as a men in army. They wont change their mentality.
In fact they don't know that almost 60% of airmen are more qualified than officers in army, and they shine in their career after discharge.
They don't bother for qualifications of their men and they don't recognize it .
If we register with DGR , you can only expect further degradation and nothing else.
You can see cols queuing up to get a post of major or equivalent forgetting their status , dignity , etc gained over a period of 20 to 30 years .
So where is the chance for JCOS and below?
It only remains a dream.
Dear Veteran Kannan,
ReplyDeleteRegards. Sir,you are correct.We can not expect any thing from Big brothers.
Dear Veteran,
ReplyDeleteRegards. Following comments were posted on Major Navdeep's blog by Veteran P.Srivastava regarding the above post.
P SRIVASTAVA said...
Dear Mr Prabhjot
Ref your mail containing the incident faced by Sgt.
Let me give you my background-----I took PMR (after 22 years in Army) in Mar 2006 and since then worked for 3 companies like Satyam, ITH etc, however, I found the attitude of the Corporate Sector towards the Defence personnel as a different one in negative sense while giving employment. The main reason is--- nearly all the defence personnel are multi-skilled and it is beyond the comprehension an average civilian counterpart. This leads to the insecurity in the mind of the immediate superior and hence they feel threatened about losing their position.
The articles in newspapers and magzines talking about the valour of Defence personnel is just an eyewash when it comes down to resettlement/ employment. They want the best with lowest of the salary and position as well. This is due to the articles appearing in the papers that armed forces personnels are paid peanuts. Not only that corporates start including pension in the CTC being offered. To mention, I had walked out of interview in one case when being considered for a company like Aditya Birla Group, when they asked about my pension and pensionary benefits. At the same time Corporates would not mind giving higher salary to lesser competent civilian counterpart.
I consider, Corporate as a society, is full of hypocrite people. As far as DGR is concerned, they have just not done their homework and in fact advise all ESM to take what ever is offered to them. DGR job must be handled by a professional HR Consultant like MAFOI or ABC CONSULTANTS to project a better image of ESM The less said about DGR is better.
Corporates feel that the best an ESM can do is to do the security job and nothing else without realizing that the ESM have the maximum exposure in all fields. Adding to that, loyalty, integrity and committment are basic quality which are inherent in them. But I have yet to see any civil organisation which values these qualities thus donot want ESM either. For Corporate people, it is the insecurity of the job and money which they first have to overcome.
I must confess that while talking to all ESM, the only factor which I found common among all --is that---------they miss the Defence Forces culture and environment.
Even today, if I get stuck anywhere--the only thing which comes handy to me is-- my identity as an ex Army officer which is synonymous to HONESTY and INTEGRITY. Unfortunately, it too is not valued anymore in corporate world.
P SRIVASTAVA
December 9, 2009 11:09 AM
Dear Veterans,
ReplyDeleteRegards. Following comments were posted by Major Navdeep Singh in response to above post on his blog as well on our blog . .veteranpjschhatwalspeaks..I was much impressed by this.He has been much considerate in his response.I thank him for this .
December 8, 2009 9:50 PM
Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singh said...
This is regarding your latest comment on my blog :
@Dear Veteran Chhatwal,
The reason why there have been no comments by readers in reply to your comment on the subject is that two new new posts have been posted on the blog after the post in question where you had posted your comment - and readers tend to concentrate on new posts, moreover, every reader does not go through all comments on all posts.
Please do not read too much into this. The issue has been deliberated upon earlier in detail on the comments section of the blog.
Please also do not go by the feeling that since it is an issue concerning PBOR, comments are not being offered. Such feelings bring in an imaginary rift between various sections of the military community which is not conducive to the overall environment.
And Yes, congratulations on your blog. I would request if you could align the written part on both sides of your blog, that is, left as well as right, it then becomes easy on the eye.
Please let me know if I could be of any use.
Regards
Navdeep
December 9, 2009 7:53 AM